People before Profit challenges the President of the EU in Dáil Éireann, not.

As we have noted in a number of posts, including this one and a series beginning here, some socialists have argued that the war in Ukraine is both an imperialist proxy war and a war of national defence by Ukraine.

If it is the former, then socialists can support neither side and if it is the latter we are obliged to support Ukraine.  It can’t therefore be both.  As has been argued in these posts and others, there are not two wars going on; there are only two sides and the one involving the Ukrainian state involves an alliance with Western imperialism.

There is little doubt that the pretence of opposing the war while also supporting it through defending Ukraine is unsustainable.  It arises from inability to stand against the tide of the massive propaganda campaign waged in Western states by its mass media and the capitalist-controlled press and television.

The ability to sustain this balancing act against this strong head-wind is partially dependent in how sheltered a particular left organisation is from the attention of this media and their exposure to ‘public opinion’, which is pro-Ukrainian because of it.  Rolling with the punches however is painful and unprincipled; you can’t directly fight back on the central issue because you can’t establish an independent working class position consistently opposed to the supporters of the war.

People before Profit (PbP) in Ireland have been successful in getting representation in the Irish parliament but this leaves them exposed to the mass media and the ‘public opinion’ that it is able to manufacture.  Its politics are already weak, focussed as it is on parliament and maintaining their presence in it.  It is therefore no real surprise that when the President of the European Commission, Ursula von der Leyen, spoke to Dáil Éireann on 1 Dec 2022, its nonsense position fell over, and equally unsurprising on which side it fell.

The response to von der Leyen’s speech by Richard Boyd Barrett started by thanking her and ‘Europe’s commitment to ensuring that there will be no hard Border on the island of Ireland or that the exit of Britain from the EU should not in any way adversely impact on the peace on this island.’  You wouldn’t think that PbP had itself supported Brexit, so giving rise to this concern in the first place. But that is a another story.

He went on to note the housing crisis in the Irish State, stating that – ‘while much of the responsibility lies with successive Governments failing to address it, a large component of the responsibility also lies with the decisions taken by the European Commission and the ECB, as part of the troika, to ram billions worth of austerity down the throats of the people of this country.   It is long past time that the EU acknowledged its mistakes in imposing that austerity and devastating consequences it has had.’

Asking for the political representatives of capitalism to say sorry for their policies is useful for what purpose exactly?  What meaningful difference to anyone was Tony Blair’s apology for Britain’s role in the Irish famine? Was this to acknowledge the baleful role of British rule in Ireland or to present it in a good light as it imposed another ‘solution’.  What use was David Cameron’s apology for the British Army murder of fourteen civil rights demonstrators in Derry in 1972, except to absolve the political leadership and pass the blame onto the grunts on the ground?  What use are requests for apologies for past sins when you support their current ones?

Boyd Barrett went on – ‘I also note that this week the President has called – I support her in this – for a tribunal to be established to investigate the undoubted war crimes of Vladimir Putin in Ukraine. We all condemn the utterly barbaric and murderous invasion of Ukraine by Russia. We support the people of Ukraine in their struggle for self-determination.’

Of course, he noted some hypocrisy here – ‘I must say, however, in the week when there is the International Day of Solidarity with the Palestinian People, for the President to not call simultaneously for an investigation into the ongoing war crimes and crimes against humanity being committed by the apartheid state of Israel against Palestinian people makes me wonder about the consistency of the ethics of the EU’s foreign policy.’

He also criticised EU policy on Saudi Arabian and the ‘EU-Moroccan trade agreement, which involves essentially taking the fish and mineral resources of the occupied Western Sahara people.’

Summing up, he said that ‘If we are to condemn, as we must, the war crimes of Putin, we must simultaneously condemn all war crimes and all crimes against humanity, even when they are committed by people that the European Union perceives as allies, such as Israel, Saudi Arabia or those that arm and support them.’

But what has Boyd Barrett got to say about the war crimes of the Ukrainian state?  Does he not know about the continuing attacks on civilians in Donetsk City that have been going on since 2014?  Has he not seen the videos of captured Russian soldiers being shot in the head by Ukrainian armed forces?   If he wants to condemn the human rights abuses in the war in Ukraine, why does he ignore those carried out by the Ukrainian state?  Or is he too hypocritical in his selective condemnation, ignoring the crimes of the capitalist state he supports?

He finishes by declaring – ‘President, we must have consistency in our foreign policy, in our ethics and in our morality if we are to be taken seriously as defenders of human rights and opponents of war.’

He wants Western capitalist states ‘to be taken seriously as defenders of human rights and opponents of war’?  How is that going to happen?  Since when did it become possible for capitalist states to be consistent defenders of human rights and opponents of war? How can he even conceive that this is possible when every state in the EU is in the midst of supporting the biggest war in Europe since 1945!  Hasn’t Boyd Barrett noticed this support?  Or is it too like his own, as he too parades himself as against the war?

Maybe he should stop wondering about the ethics and morality of capitalism and its state machinery and try to recall some of the Marxism he claims to stand for; like Lenin suggesting that the only thing that will end war is socialism.  Maybe then he might become aware that it is not the inconsistency of capitalist states that is the problem; they are really pretty consistent in their foreign policy and support for war. He might also reflect on his support for Western imperialism adjudicating on the crimes of others, and its Ukrainian allies, when perhaps this is something only the working class can do! Just a thought he might want to consider.

This miserable speech is testament to what happens when socialists abandon principled positions and indulge in capitulation to their own rulers, leading them to the frankly idiotic nonsense that pleads for consistent progressive policies from their own capitalist states in the middle of them supporting a reactionary war.

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  1. Thus, the Aristotelian sciences divide into three: (i) theoretical, (ii) practical, and (iii) productive. The principles of division are straightforward: theoretical science seeks knowledge for its own sake; practical science concerns conduct and goodness in action, both individual and societal; and productive science aims at the creation of beautiful or useful objects (Top. 145a15–16; Phys. 192b8–12; DC 298a27–32, DA 403a27–b2; Met. 1025b25, 1026a18–19, 1064a16–19, b1–3; EN 1139a26–28, 1141b29–32).

    Aristotle thus has a threefold division concerning ‘science’. Logic is deemed to be methodological, required of all science and thought. What is a little uncertain is to what extent is the Aristotle division of the sciences determined by the object to be studied. Aristotle is said to be a ‘realist’ and not an ‘idealist’. One can argue that with Kant an idealist conception of science displaced the realism of science. No longer is the division of the sciences determined by the object to be studied.

    In the case of theoretical science and its seeking knowledge for its own sake, the object of study is that something that stays the same across time. In the case of practical science concerning conduct and goodness of action, the object under study is a something that changes across time. There may be a doubt because the object that stays the same across time is Nature. What of the object that changes across time: Man in Society? Is Man not also a part of Nature, therefore has a Human Nature that does not change across Time?

    Whatever one thinks about the above, Marxism takes the view that one can have scientific knowledge about an object that changes a great deal across time, so the starting point of Aristotle account of theory for its own sake is incorrect. Marxism is famed for its claim that one can have theoretical knowledge about an object that changes a great deal across time, namely History. Aristotle is of the opinion that there can be no science of History, this puts him at odds with Marx. Is not Marx famed for his theory of History, now called historical materialism.

    What has all this got to do with the war in Europe and so on. Well there is a good deal of talk about the guidance of ‘theory’ and then of ‘ethics and morals’. It seems left unsaid what these terms actually mean, it as if they are terms well understood by common sense or if you prefer to the public opinion. So we all know what we mean by ‘theory’ by ‘Ethics’ and Morals’, we also know what we mean when we speak about ‘principles’ like self-determination, supposedly a recognised part of something called International Law.

    One way out of this thicket is to say it is all ideological cover for something hidden, a sort of intellectual baloney. What matters is power and the distribution of power, especially of State Power. The problem with this perspective is that State Power is neutral and anonymous, one State Power is the same as every other State Power. Not much help when it come to the question of Right or Justice’

    So we are for now fated to make use of what intellectual baloney there is to be found just ready to hand. I don’t think Marxism has sorted out its own division of the sciences, it certainly is not happy about that tradition handed down by Aristotle, yet does it have an alternative account that is more coherent? One thing that happened with Marxism, especially with Stalinism was that practical matters, question about actions began to not only impinge on theoretical matters, knowledge for its own sake was not something worth its weight in gold, it began to dictate the conclusions of theoretical matters. I think Aristotle arrived at his division of the sciences to preserve theoretical science from practical or societal hegemony. There is a well entrenched practice at work within Marxism in Ireland to let practical matters, like how to get more more votes and seats, to dictate the main conclusions made by’ theory’. This is usually justified by quotes from Marx or Lenin, along the lines that the point is to change the world and not merely to understand the it. You often hear the cause of theory traduced by the bad word ‘merely’. Theory is all about the merely.

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